530 Josephus’ first example would be recognized as chronologically anterior to the others, and also could claim wide cultural recognition. In fact, the reference to Judeans comes not from Pythagoras, but from his interpreter, Hermippus: by this elision Josephus takes a questionable cultural explanation of some of Pythagoras’ “symbols” as proof of very ancient knowledge of Judeans. Introduced, without hesitation, as a “Samian,” Pythagoras appears incontestably Greek. But his ethnicity and birth-place were actually matters of controversy in antiquity (see, e.g., Diogenes Laertius 8.1; Clement, Strom. 1.14.62; Porphyry, Vit. Pyth. 1, 5) – a fact that Josephus acknowledges later in this work (2.14).